Regular season of Italian Serie A1 2012/13

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Kk15 1301
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2011-10-02 • 45929 views • 625 replies

First round

Sisley Belluno - Andreoli Latina 1-3 (27-25, 14-25, 19-25, 21-25)
Itas Diatec Trentino - Acqua Paradiso Monza Brianza 3-0 (25-19, 25-22, 25-23)
Fidia Padova - Copra Elior Piacenza 3-0 (26-24, 25-21, 27-25)
Lube Banca Marche Macerata - CMC Ravenna 3-1 (25-13, 24-26, 25-15, 25-19)
Bre Banca Lannutti Cuneo - Marmi Lanza Verona 3-0 (25-22, 26-24, 25-23)
Energy Resources San Giustino - Tonno Callipo Vibo Valentia 2-3 (25-22, 18-25, 29-27, 21-25, 14-16)
Casa Modena - M. Roma Volley 3-1 (21-25, 25-21, 25-17, 25-19)

Itas Diatec Trentino, Fidia Padova, Bre Banca Lannutti Cuneo, Lube Banca Marche Macerata, Andreoli Latina, Casa Modena 3, Tonno Callipo Vibo Valentia 2, Energy Resources San Giustino 1, M. Roma Volley, Sisley Belluno, CMC Ravenna, Marmi Lanza Verona, Copra Elior Piacenza, Acqua Paradiso Monza Brianza 0


Second round

Copra Elior Piacenza-Itas Diatec Trentino 2-3 (21-25, 23-25, 25-19, 25-21, 10-15)
Acqua Paradiso Monza Brianza-Fidia Padova 3-1 (25-17, 25-22, 21-25, 25-23) 
Andreoli Latina-Energy Resources San Giustino 2-3 (25-16, 21-25, 22-25, 25-22, 9-15)
Tonno Callipo Vibo Valentia-Bre Banca Lannutti Cuneo 2-3 (26-24, 25-27, 25-19, 23-25, 11-15)
Marmi Lanza Verona-Sisley Belluno 3-2 (25-23, 25-23, 17-25, 18-25, 19-17)
CMC Ravenna-Casa Modena 0-3 (29-31, 16-25, 20-25)
M. Roma Volley-Lube Banca Marche Macerata 0-3 (19-25, 18-25, 16-25).

Itas Diatec Trentino 8, Lube Banca Marche Macerata 6, Casa Modena 6, Bre Banca Lannutti Cuneo 5, Andreoli Latina 4, Tonno Callipo Vibo Valentia 3, Energy Resources San Giustino 3, Acqua Paradiso Monza Brianza 3, Fidia Padova 3, Marmi Lanza Verona 2, Sisley Belluno 1, Copra Elior Piacenza 1, M. Roma Volley 0, CMC Ravenna 0.


Third round

Fidia Padova - Itas Diatec Trentino 0-3 (16-25, 16-25, 23-25)
Lube Banca Marche Macerata - Copra Elior Piacenza 3-1 (20-25, 25-18, 26-24, 25-21)
Andreoli Latina - Marmi Lanza Verona 3-0 (25-21, 25-21, 25-20)
Sisley Belluno - Tonno Callipo Vibo Valentia 2-3 (25-27, 30-28, 29-27, 21-25, 17-19)
Casa Modena - Acqua Paradiso Monza Brianza 3-0 (25-15, 26-24, 25-19)
Bre Banca Lannutti Cuneo - M. Roma Volley 3-0 (25-20, 25-19, 25-22)
Energy Resources San Giustino - CMC Ravenna 3-2 (25-20, 21-25, 24-26, 25-21, 15-13)

Lube Banca Marche Macerata 9, Casa Modena 9, Itas Diatec Trentino 8, Bre Banca Lannutti Cuneo 8, Andreoli Latina 7, Tonno Callipo Vibo Valentia 5, Energy Resources San Giustino 5, Acqua Paradiso Monza Brianza 3, Fidia Padova 3, Marmi Lanza Verona 2, Sisley Belluno 2, Copra Elior Piacenza 1, CMC Ravenna 1, M. Roma Volley 0.



Fourth round
Itas Diatec Trentino - Lube Banca Marche Macerata 2-3 (25-17, 22-25, 21-25, 25-21, 12-15)
Sisley Belluno - Energy Resources San Giustino 3-0 (25-21, 25-22, 26-24)
CMC Ravenna - Acqua Paradiso Monza Brianza 1-3 (21-25, 29-27, 19-25, 19-25)
Bre Banca Lannutti Cuneo - Andreoli Latina 3-2 (24-26, 25-23, 24-26, 25-23, 15-10)
Casa Modena - Copra Elior Piacenza 3-0 (25-20, 25-13, 25-18)
Tonno Callipo Vibo Valentia - M. Roma Volley 0-3 (27-29, 16-25, 19-25)
Marmi Lanza Verona - Fidia Padova 3-2 (25-16, 22-25, 22-25, 25-21, 15-6) 

Casa Modena 12, Lube Banca Marche Macerata 11, Bre Banca Lannutti Cuneo 10, Itas Diatec Trentino 9, Andreoli Latina 8, Acqua Paradiso Monza Brianza 6, Tonno Callipo Vibo Valentia 5, Energy Resources San Giustino 5, Sisley Belluno 5, Marmi Lanza Verona 4, Fidia Padova 4, M. Roma Volley 3, CMC Ravenna 1, Copra Elior Piacenza 1


Fifth round
Lube Banca Marche Macerata - Bre Banca Lannutti Cuneo 3-2 (20-25, 25-23, 22-25, 25-20, 15-13)
Fidia Padova - Casa Modena 2-3 (25-19, 19-25, 25-23, 29-31, 15-17)
Itas Diatec Trentino - Energy Resources San Giustino 3-0 (25-20, 25-17, 25-20)
CMC Ravenna - Marmi Lanza Verona 1-3 (21-25, 25-22, 21-25, 23-25)
M. Roma Volley - Sisley Belluno 3-2 (25-17, 25-21, 23-25, 23-25, 15-10)
Acqua Paradiso Monza Brianza - Andreoli Latina 3-1 (26-24, 25-19, 13-25, 25-22)
Copra Elior Piacenza - Tonno Callipo Vibo Valentia 3-2 (23-25, 25-16, 25-22, 17-25, 15-7)

Casa Modena 14, Lube Banca Marche Macerata 13, Itas Diatec Trentino 12, Bre Banca Lannutti Cuneo 11, Acqua Paradiso Monza Brianza 9, Andreoli Latina 8, Marmi Lanza Verona 7, Tonno Callipo Vibo Valentia 6, Sisley Belluno 6, M. Roma Volley 5, Energy Resources San Giustino 5, Fidia Padova 5, Copra Elior Piacenza 3, CMC Ravenna 1


Sixth round
Casa Modena – Itas Diatec Trentino 0-3 (17-25, 20-25, 16-25)
Bre Banca Lannutti Cuneo – CMC Ravenna 3-0 (25-21, 28-26, 25-12)





 

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Regular season of Italian Serie A1 2012/13
RevanExtasis 746 11
12 years ago
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so trentino already play the third round ??? that was because of the world championship club or the champions league ???
oioi 370 5
12 years ago
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Sisley surprised by losing with Latina and so easily. I guess Piacenza dissapointed too.
Kk15Author 1301 11
12 years ago
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@RevanExtasis: because of the WCCh, in fact they'll be in Doha the next Sunday? (or cominck back from...)


Kk15Author 1301 11
12 years ago
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For today, I predicted right all the victory/losses, but I was defintly surprised that Trento and Cuneo needed the tie break to won!
RevanExtasis 746 11
12 years ago
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you cannot compare this italianl league edition whit the last one all the teams have at least 2 superstars and well they make big things would expect many teams for the experienced guys from Piacenza but for VIbo vallentia thas is other history
Kjeldhor 1059 17
12 years ago
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alredy lose 2 set ? [=P]
Kk15Author 1301 11
12 years ago
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Don't worry, we (Rome) are in worst condition xD

ps: probably isn't a coincidence that both M.Roma and Ravenna has 0 points after playing vs Modena and Macerata...

pps: Wijsman injuried (?); Meoni injuried (finger)
Kjeldhor 1059 17
12 years ago
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or mabye it's a coincidance, u played only 2 matches but u have 5 (or more, i don't remember) new player ?
casamodena 505 4
12 years ago
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Wout suffered a twisted ankle by landing from spike over Coscione's feet who was on block.
raylight 3006 15
12 years ago
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Кк15, Copra has both Zlatanov and Nikolov, two big champions of Italy who have been motors of their clubs for the cups and titles, why are you so surprised they play well? Not to mention Samuele Papi and Holt in the roster.
Kk15Author 1301 11
12 years ago
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Because Trento is Trento, and because the last time they lost 3-0 vs Padova (THAT was a huuuge surprise). I'm aware of the strenght of Piacenza, even if I usually prefer younger team ?

@casamodena: thanks. Did you watch M.Roma-Macerata? If you did you'll understand that Lebl performe in serve in Modena is his standard xD (well, I'm laughing, but actually I should cry.... I know 16 years-old guys [even girls!]that serve waaay better=.=)
RevanExtasis 746 11
12 years ago
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he Kk15 i wanna ask you why a guy like martin Lebl(M.Roma) play in the italian league for me and i dont wanna sounds rude(i always sounds rude) he are overheight come on he is a fatty guy and like i say i dont wanna be rude he play MB right??? well i see that game and you cannot compare Macerata whith Roma not way i think even macerata have better team that Trento this year if you count player by player come on you have only Juantorena and Kasyski in Trento and for the other hand Podrascanin,Stankovic,Travica,Savani(this guy have a huge serve im a fan of SAVA), Ormcem and what are the name of the other Outside Hitter ??? oh yess the nice young Boy Parodi come on that i call a strong team and whith more reception work than Trentino, in the other han we have besides kasyski and osmany who ??? biarelli( he are in his last years), Djuric( good player i see him in olympiacos) and Stork speaking about that last guy i dont like his style and i almost forguet Sokolov the other bulgarian guy and second oppossite of bulgaria and well i think Trentino can made it this year again the only thing is beat; Macerata,Kazan and Cuneo and that its all for me.
Kjeldhor 1059 17
12 years ago
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i'll try to answer (sorry but my english isn't so good):
1. Lebl: when he played in Macerata he lose some weight, but whit weight he lose his powerfull attack, so we know he play better when he is little overheight.

2. no, u can't compare Roma whit Macerata, this year Macerata is really a great team, but they are weakness in reception (exept for Exiga, but Savani an Parodi are both a pure hitter)

3. If u don't see the match it's hard to believe, but Juanto is better as a receiver ?
RevanExtasis 746 11
12 years ago
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Kjedhor i know the recepction of juantorena i was talking about kasisky and sometimes Andrea"Crazy legs" Bari for me Juantorena is the most suscesfull player in this 2 year in that team and i dont want say more cause i know that in this page are more fans of Matey and well that was gonna be a problem.
Kk15Author 1301 11
12 years ago
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Kjeldhor, Parodi is a pure hitter?! O.o

I don't care if Lebl is overwight or not, I just care that he is ridicoulus in serve =.=
raylight 3006 15
12 years ago
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Also a pure blocker, server and receiver
raylight 3006 15
12 years ago
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Revan, Kaziyski and Juantorena share the burden equally. If you see the stats you will notice significant improvement in Kaziyski's game during playoffs, while Juantorena has the same level all time. That is because he don't have matches with the NT. In the right moments Matey always leads the team to victory, together with Osmany. See the stats of the final of Serie A1 for example - he made all the perfect receptions and spiked hard and efficient together with Stokr. He is the real MVP for me in this match alone. Juantorena was MVP in Champions League and World Club Championship.
RevanExtasis 746 11
12 years ago
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tthe comparison will be leave when one of two leave the Trentino Volley soon that can happens besides nobody know or see it who is trentino whitoth Osmany or Matey. and as i say in my last post here the people can talk bad about Matey or have is own opinion, the guy its not cool for me he dont made any improvement in the NT and only whith Nikolov its not enought only Bronze medals nothing more even a Silver medal in any competition the last one was in 2009 and comen if osmany could play for Cuba things will be diferent they already made something whith that team that is the reason between my comparison. we will see the World Club Championship,
raylight 3006 15
12 years ago
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The reasons for the lack of medals recently and the gold is not in Matey Kaziyski and Nikolov who are doing the impossible in our team, it is the lack of proper balance in the other players which makes our team weaker. Cuba had 3 or 4 World class spikers when they got silver at the WCH - Simon, Leon, Leal, Sanshez, we have 2. The club successes of Kaziyski and Nikolov, who dominate in Italy is proof enough that it is not their fault for the results. Milijkovic in our team wouldn't win anything too. You can't win title alone - without tactics and proper team balance, spirit and coordination.

Bulgarian Federation let Zlatanov and Baev to play for Italy and Greece and they are World Class players, with them the gold wouldn't be so far away
RevanExtasis 746 11
12 years ago
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so you can say bulgarian NT golden era was 2006-2009??? that it, i heard that the bastard of the bulgarian federation want fired Stoychev this guys wants only results whith only a few super stars players. and they suspended my hot goddess eva yaneva to. WTF??? whit this guys
raylight 3006 15
12 years ago
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No, I think our Golden Era is yet to come with young and talented players like Sokolov, Todorov, Bratoev, Penchev, Skrimov. About the federation, they are stupid and don't plan ahead.
Kk15Author 1301 11
12 years ago
+1
Macerata-Piacenza 3-1

Nice to see Zlato back, but also Penchev on court?

Now Macerata is leading with 9 points and only Modena has a chance to get them tomorrow ?
raylight 3006 15
12 years ago
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Piacenza didn't play bad, they should have closed the third set
Zyta 1332 11
12 years ago
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Modena with Diachkov and Kooy as a middles [depends on position on court], I couldn't watch but but I heard Modena had crazy situations when Diachkov received serve standing on '6' and then quick run to '3' and attack as a middle. I wanna see it!
Kk15Author 1301 11
12 years ago
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Zyta, it's still on sportube (channel 1, I think). You can find the match directly from the bottom of legavolley homepage?

I'll add the others result soon or later ?
raylight 3006 15
12 years ago
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Sportube doesn't post new videos on demand, only highlights
Kk15Author 1301 11
12 years ago
+1
Cuneo-Latina 3-2

Latina is defintly more interesting than I though it would be, Prandi is doing a nice job imo.

On the other hand, the chemistry I loved in Cuneo is gone, at least for now. They are strong, but... I don't know... The are also quite boring in a cartain way...

Kk15Author 1301 11
12 years ago
+1
oh, the match Belluno-Vibo was the longest match in serieA1 with RPSystem, like 2:40 h!!

Today Rai will trasmitt Verona-Padova at 17.30; tomorrow evening at 20.00 Trento will play s Macerata (sportube will trasmitt the match)

other matches:
Belluno-San Giustino
Vibo-Roma (:S)
Modena-Piacenza
Ravenna-Monza (again argentinian vs argentinian ?, this time it will be Quiroga vs De Cecco)
Kk15Author 1301 11
12 years ago
+1
Kovar (Macerata), Paparoni (Roma), Farina (Belluno), Martino (Modena), will be able to play, finally.

raylight 3006 15
12 years ago
-2
Yosifov still injured?
Kk15Author 1301 11
12 years ago
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As far as I understood both Yosifov and Piscopo will be stopped for a while, infact Modena hired Nemec until the WC pause...
Kk15Author 1301 11
12 years ago
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Yeees Roma won!!! I'm so glad, I can't wait to watch the match ?

Modena is impressive! Tomorrow they have a chance to be alone at the top of the classific! I expected it would have been more difficult for them to win.

I was surprised about Belluno-San Giustino, I expected at least a longer match, probably also a victory by San Giustino.

Padova collapsed at the end of the match, but it's fair that Verona won, even simply because of Gasparini 11 aces (!!!!! new record!!!!!! poor Sava xD)

Ravenna-Monza ended as I expected ?
Kk15Author 1301 11
12 years ago
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Vibo-Roma 0-3
Ravenna-Monza 1-3
Modena-Piacenza 3-0
Verona-Padova 3-2
Belluno-San Giustino 3-0

yesterday: Cuneo-Latina 3-2

tomorrw: Trento-Macerata
Overlook 280 5
12 years ago
+1
Gasparini totally rocks on serve today?
casamodena 505 4
12 years ago
+1
@raylight Yosifov's no more injured. On tonight he played (very good) the whole game.

I'm by myself amazed about Modena's performances.. another 3-0, 12 won sets only 1 lost, Dick Kooy best spiker of serie A with 68% attack average (tonight another terrific 81% on 16 attempts, 75% reception, 4 aces), and Anderson 3rd with 57% .. Who would have it ever thought? Yeah, we didn't face top teams till now, and Piacenza had serious lineup problems in this match, but I did not see my team playing like this since last season's semifinals vs Trentino or last scudetto in 2002. Keep me calm as I can wait no more for the 29th to come for the match vs Trento.. none of our matches was broadcasted, but trust me, it will be very hard for them to win.. sure it will be an exciting battle on each point.
And in any case, let the best win ..whatever happens volleyball makes you feel unique emotions and that's the why (in my opinion) it is the best sport of the world!
Kk15Author 1301 11
12 years ago
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I saw Kooy stats, amazing, now I got why bagnoli wanted Martino: to force Kooy to proove every match that he deserves to be on court ?
raylight 3006 15
12 years ago
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Netherlands could do so much with Kooy, Kooistra, Horstnk, Bontje in one team
Kjeldhor 1059 17
12 years ago
+1
Gasparini get a nice serve day, but i'm not sure taht Garghella is a libero ?
Overlook 280 5
12 years ago
+1
Last one polish journalist asked Żygadło (during CWCH) if Cuneo'll be main opponent for Trento to title, like it was last seasons. He answered that in his opinion it'll be Modena, but I hope for Cuneo too.
Kjeldhor 1059 17
12 years ago
+1
for me it main opponent is Macerata, this year is very strong
pearl 1003 11
12 years ago
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Ciao a tutti, posso intervenire anch'io? ;-) Well, well, well...Roma was eventually able to win a match! They know how to win then!?! :-P The only thing that makes me a little bit sad is that they won over Vibo :-( I watched Cuneo v Latina: nice match, but I was a little disappointed by the final result; Latina simply spoiled the victory. Jarosz didn't play well, Troy was definitively better. As regards Cuneo: I really would like to see Michelino :-) Baranowicz playing more! He has good hands and a good serve...and we need a young and talented setter for our NT along with Drago.
@Overlook & Kjeldhor: I think that Macerata is the real opponent for Trento this year too!!
@Kk15: you're from Rome, aren't you? What about Giulio Sabbi's latest performance? Did he play well??
Kjeldhor 1059 17
12 years ago
+1
Itas Diatec Trentino 2 - 3 Lube Banca Marche Macerata
only 1 point but i'm happy... they are really tired today
casamodena 505 4
12 years ago
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Trentino - Macerata 2-3 (25-17, 22-25, 21-25, 25-21, 12-15)
Very good match by Lube.. but would it really end this way if Trento would get more rest days? I don't think so. With quite less reception mistakes the match would have been different.
Yes, Lube and Modena had an impressive seasonal start and Trento is the usual league's team-to-beat that all us know.
Some surprises at the top.. but at the bottom? Rome? Piacenza? Difficult to expect a worst beginning...
Kk15Author 1301 11
12 years ago
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It's only me, or also others have problem with sportube (strange change of cuoulors, missing audio smtime...)? Very annoying =.=

Well, I'm sooo glad that Macerata won! yuppieee! ? As others said, I think Macerata is Trento main opponents! But it's true that Modena seems to be in excellent shape. Cuneo has a very nice roster, but if their chemistry is the one they showed vs Latina .. :S

@pearl, yes, I'm from Roma, this evening I watch the match in a local tv and I'm so proud of my guys!!! Very nice match, they've never stop believing they could win (24-21,24-24,25-24,26-25,27-26,27-29 in the first set!! And not with Vibo help, exept the last spike-error by Nikolov), they defended very well and kept alive a lot of difficult ball, they served well (Lebl with his horrible float serve: no errors, 1 half ace on Cernic -priceless!- one ace!), blocked well (in the 3rd set very well!), great match by Ivan (78% in attack, he saved like 3 Vibo set point in the first set, nice serve, nice block, nice reception), and Sabbi played very well too, 62% in attack and good match overall (serve, block, also simply the way he stayed on court). Paparoni, how the hell a missed him!!!! ? Good double changes Bencz-Paolucci (they both helped the team), good Bjelica finally, helpful and experienced Cisolla (he played titoular) etc... I'm so glad! ?
Zyta 1332 11
12 years ago
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Kk15 what do you mean by Cuneo's chemistry? I haven't seen the match.
Kk15Author 1301 11
12 years ago
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Hard to explain, they didn't seem to have a great squad chemistry, relation...
Overlook 280 5
12 years ago
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Maybe they need some time to that. Or like Grbic need play important matches, be under the pressure to show their best. I don't have any doubts about Macerata's strengths too.
pearl 1003 11
12 years ago
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I wasn't impressed by Cuneo's game. Last year they played much better than they're doing now. Maybe Kk15 is right (by the way, thank you for your report of the macth Roma v Vibo): lack of chemistry among the players, a new coach as well, new schemes...you know it will take some time! But Latina played well; honestly it has been playing great since the very start of the season. And what about Macerata??? OMG they won over the aliens :-D We only have to wait and see if they'll be able to do it again ;-)
pearl 1003 11
12 years ago
+1
One more thing about Sabbi: I'm so glad he's doing a nice job, considering that he has made his debut in Serie A1 only this season. I have Great Expectations (and I'm not quoting Dickens...I swear, ahahah) about this boy. He might really be Berruto's next first choice as an opposite, when Lasko withdraws.
Kk15Author 1301 11
12 years ago
+1
Well, for the World Cup Fei is back on the list... But I wanna believe in Sabbi too, also Zaytsev didn't start at 100% last year (his first season in A1 as OH, after only 2 years playing as OH), but then he became the soul and the "weapon" of the team, expecially since Cisolla and then also Poey stopped playing ?

I'm waiting for Cuneo chemistry to be back too?

yes, Macerata won over the aliens, but tired aliens. I think that now Trento is still stronger than Macerata,it's more organized; but considering that Macerata changed a lot and Trento only 1 MB (and what MB!) in the starting six (or better seven, or even better eight if we count also Colaci! ), may be Macerata can improve more than Trento... (also the coach!!)
(and they still have Sokolov, Zygadlo and Della Lunga that are very important subs for Trento)

ps: Sokolov had fingers problems, so he couldn't play
Kk15Author 1301 11
12 years ago
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Trento-Macerata 3-2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOBTG8PyNEk&feature=feedu
I'll upload it on the site?
pearl 1003 11
12 years ago
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Are you sure of the score you posted? I thought Macerata had won ;-D
Kk15Author 1301 11
12 years ago
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ahaha right xD I'll edit!
Zyta 1332 11
12 years ago
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You know, I understand that all teams should be shown in tv during the season, but c'mon such match like Trento - Lube on sportube only, especially when match was on Monday, not Sunday? what sports we have on Monday? I'm not even talking about situation when someone can't install the Ray-V like me, but many of my friends have had slideshow, not actually live stream.
casamodena 505 4
12 years ago
+1
@Zyta I understand your disappointment at all. In Italy we all are used to stand our broadcaster Rai's strange (nonsense) programme schedule. What you reported is however nothing special. I remember long matches on 2-2 score that were suddenly interrupted for showing something like table tennis or other uncommon minor sports.
They also have two sports channels: most of the time they both show the same (recorded) things (the only difference is one channel is delayed of 1 hour)..
So be ready for anything by them! ?
raylight 3006 15
12 years ago
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That's ridiculous. Rai, rai...
casamodena 505 4
12 years ago
+1
Indeed, Raylight =)
Zyta 1332 11
12 years ago
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It's good that Serie A understand they have to put matches into internet if they want more sponsors, make sport more popular, but this project must be improved.
Kk15Author 1301 11
12 years ago
+1
Yes Zyta, I don't know why sportube broadcast only one match per week, because last season when the web tv project of Lega started, they trasmitted 2 matches (or even 3, I don't remember) on sportube. And sportube was working better than now...

About Rai schedule, you're right, but I think that they can/chose to trasmitt a certain match only once, so we can may be expect that they will trasmitt Lube-Trento in the second phase... Last year was like that, if I'm not wrong.
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casamodena 505 4
12 years ago
+2
CMC Ravenna 1-3 Marmi Lanza Verona (21-25,25-22,21-25,23-25)
A nice battle, but finally the most experienced team won.
How strange is that in Ravenna's team nobody between Quiroga,Gruszka and Verhanneman isn't still a team leader. Sad to see such a crowd cheering for the whole game for losing again at home..

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