I think it's always balanced performance

raylight sorry for late answer but: you said that Trentino's players are training very hard. i understand that. i don't say that coming to Trentino was a bad decision. i'm saying that staying there for longer time just don't make any sense. when there was Grbic we could say that Żygadło wanted to learn sth from the best. but with Raphael that excuse is funny (sorry for his fans but it's true). in Żygadło's situation and age you should stop lerning so hard and start to play in games finally! i can't believe that he's happy with the fact that he's sitting on the bench... and if he's not, why he stay there?! i can't understand that. it doesn't matter where you train - not playing during game is horrible for player!

Wlazly is 197cm heigh and rely on reach height rather than speed

Wlazly also has height

Zygadlo is very prevedible but also he's really precise, and in this moment is the best second setter for Trento.
when Trento got some problem whit the spikers usually Raphael try to get more speed at the ball and maybe Matey and Stokr got some problem, and Lukasz's gameplay is the best in those moments, whit those spiker we just need someone who can give him a perfect high ball to let matey and Osmany reach their highest jump and hit the ball whit power.

probably is not the same for the spikers who rely on speed like Wlazy

Aelinn: you're not teasing me at all! I like reading your comments and find interesting what you write. I'm happy you finally decided to join us in the discussions In case I didn't tell you: You're more than welcome for me

Pearl, I heard about Michal (the Polish version of Michelino would be Misiek, though it indicates more that you like the person, not that the person is very young ) not speaking a word of Polish, but then it is not so unusual a situation, really. All foreign players don't know the language when they come here And Baranowicz is foreign, though with Polish origins.
The Czech, Slovak, Ukrainian or Belarussian players are in better situation, because their languages are similar, so they pick up Polish more quickly than the others, but otherwise the conditions are the same for all. Plus, he had a fellow Italian on the team (Matej Cernic) and the coach Ljubo Travica speaks Italian fluently

Ok, I am teasing you ;P It must have been a stressful situation for him - a young player first time in a foreign league, not much experience and yet everyone expects he will play well and lead his team to the title. Maybe it was a little too much for him? But I also think that he improved, you could see it comparing the first games of the season with the last ones.

You did perfect job here. Zygadlo deserved this movie.

Aelinn:what you said is true and I agree with you. The point with Michelino (I call Baranowicz this way 'cause he's very young ) is that now is 21 but he won't be 21 forever and, constant practice, especially for setters (as raylight wrote previously), is essential to improve. I know he didn't give his best last year in Sovia: I think he had some problems. First of all, a new country (he wasn't able to say a word in Polish when he arrived there...did you know that?) and a different kind of league. Then lack of experience, for sure, was important too. But, I find that last year's experience in poland for him was absolutely useful, 'cause when I've seen him playing this season I was impressed by how he has improved!!
Anyway...sorry, the topic of this thread is Zygadlo...i'm afraid i went OT. Sorry again

There are highlights of Zygadlo vs Dinamo Moscow here

Zygadlo this year make huge progres under Anastasi command, sitting 3 years in trento didnt chnge him, even get worst, he became seter a kind of "hihg ball to juantorena and kaziyski"

begening and whole WL was terrible by Zygadlo, in ECH he changed lot in his game, grat match with Russia, first time I saw him setting pipe in the ned of the set when fro expample for grat setters it doesnt matter when he play complicated comibation in ball opening match and matchball

I repeat again, Zygadlo made more progres with Anastsi in 6 months than 3 years with Stoychev practising like animal raylight

But the difference is, pearl, that Baranowicz is still very young and will have his chance of playing a lot of games in a good club, I'm sure. Łukasz is 32 years old - too young to be a second setter and waste time sitting on the bench and too old to hope for many years of play ahead of him, though setters generally play longer, than opposites, for that matter.

Btw, Baranowicz played as a first-choice setter in Resovia Rzeszów last year, good club (not as good as Cuneo, of course) in which he had chance to practice, play every game in starting six and get better by it. Hope it was useful for him and that he learnt something But Resovia wants success and they want it now. Michal was too inexperienced and his performance was a little shaky, so the changed him. Can't say they're playing way better this season, but Tichacek is - for now - a better setter than Baranowicz.

I hope, thought, that being in the same team as great Nikola Grbic, training with him and learning from Nikola will help Baranowicz improve

I'm not a big fan of Raphael, by the way, but not because he is the first-choice setter and Łukasz isn't. And he is good, too. Just don't like him, hard to explain, really. Plus, Nikola was wayyy better and I really liked him in Trentino

Yes, for setters staying on the bench is worse than for spikers, they need more matches to develop

Unfortunately such things happen when you play for teams crowded with big names. Lukasz has in front of him a setter like Raphael and that's the reason why he hasn't many opportunities to play. It's exactly the same situation our Baranowicz is currently going through in Cuneo: very few chances for him to play 'cause the titular is a terrific and highly-experienced player like Grbic. Maybe sometimes it is better for a player to go in a smaller club but being sure of playing always than being in a huge super-famous club but running the risk of never (or barely) setting his/her foot on court.

But no practice, even the hardest one, can compensate for lack of regular playing in matches, I think. Of course, trainings are extremely important, it is where you work to get better and practice your technique , but it should then be followed by practicing the learnt skills also in matches. Trainings are "comfortable" situations, so to speak. There is no stress, you can make a lot of mistakes because that's the role of the training to rule them out. It's totally different, when you play in a game (and for example a very important one) and your every decision can influence the result. The atmosphere, the pace of the game, everything is different. Also, on the training you play with guys you know and can predict what they're gonna do. In matches you play against gusy that you may not know so well and you can learn something new from them.

I have never said bad thing about Łukasz, I actually like him and I think that he is a very good setter. And he is more appreciated in Poland now, after this national team season. But I would still say that he is a little worse then Zagumny. Łukasz's way of setting is more predictable, he plays a lot with the wing spikers and too little with middle blockers for me (though that has improved this year). In the World League it was almost obvious that most of the difficult balls he is gonna set to Kurek, whereas Zagumny can aways surprise you and set to middle blockers, set faster balls and so on.
But I think that Łukasz is better in defense, picks up more balls.

he's not very beautiful to see, but he's really efficacy

Bitka, Trentino players don't sit on the bench, they practice every day like animals

underrated setter? how can we say good things about him when he's wasting his time sitting on the bench for 3 seasons in Trentino (and has contract till 2013)?

maybe underrated setter ??

love this music unfortunately I can't use it anymore
and about Łukasz- in my opinion his best performance was against Argentina and the 2 sets against Brazil