Stoytchev better than Prandi?

Bieber is talent for squeezing money from teenagers, he is like Jordan of lolly-pop music :D

The guy who made Bieber a star? :D

Can anybody make a star from someone without a talent?

Well, almost right but, see to create great player he (the player) should be talanted...after that Rado can make star of him...
Think again.. can Rado make a star from me? I am like a tree in the volleyball hall..

Look how Matey played in 2010 and in 2011 ECH

He is not only buying players, he creates players. Look at Juantorena 2005 and compare with Juantorena now, look at Tsestso, Visotto, Stokr. Most of the players play better in Trento than for their NT or their consequent clubs

Well, he is the best club coach...
Everyone knows he can buy the greatest players in the world if he needs/wants to..
In NT it's not that way...

No, he is THE ONE AND ONLY - RADO STOYTCHEV! No need to compare him to anybody!

Wow,thanks casamodena,that's a really high praise coming from you :)

Bulgarian José Mourinho :)
As loved in teams he trains at, as hated and insupportable for opponents.
He has a clear idea about how psychological aspects affect his and other team's players and how to take advantage from that.

Last edited by casamodena on 21:00 16/11/2011.

I love this coach really

That's why his team is the best in the world.

His philosophy is different - his teams make very few errors in the games and that helps them to keep their rhythm constant during the matches.

I liked Prandi but Stoychev is way too good. He has the ability to make a player show his best at crucial moments and can develop his potential to the max.

I've uploaded some of Teodor Todorov serving against Japan, which is effect from Placci analysis and Stoychev's training

http://www.youtub...=channel_video_title

Zyta, Nikolov was in a hole, before coming to Trento. He had bad season with the NT, but when he came there, he return to his best shape and improves his play against the block for the World Cup. He needed very little to improve and he got it.

I hope Penchev can add 10 cm jump and power, these days our youngsters look like barely survived starvation, nothing in common with previous generations, like they have never seen a gym.
In 2003 when Poland got gold and we bronze at the junior WCH, our generation had Gaydarski, Kaziyski, Aleksiev and Milushev - all powerful players. Later generation included Tsetso Sokolov, who was 205 at age of 14 and looked like demigod to the dutch side acording to HeelMooi. Now nobody has hand more than 20 cm :D

Last edited by raylight on 08:51 08/08/2011.

I think Nikolov needs to be replaced with Sokolov in the near future.
All the power Sokolov has will be a great impulse for our NT in the European Ch. in September.
Anyway we're not the once who decide... Now let Stoytchev do his job. :)

Nikolov improved? He was 31 or 32 when he left Trento, in this age you are not improving, you just show your class ;)
I think you need more someone like Skrimov, Bratoev only as sub for Matey, but if you get rid of Aleksiev, I see no chances to not take Penchev for ECh. BTW I like this kid, you found a real pearl on this position. But first some more muscles and strength ;)

1. Since 2009 ECH, when he helped very much against Netherlands. In 2010 he wasn't important, but in 2011 in WL he showed couple of very strong games against Japan and Russia as guest (him and Aleksiev actually). We rely on him, because he has strong serve and block, very good attack lately and runs like hell in defense and he plays with heart (and he receives better than Aleksiev, not that it is too much of achievement)
2. This is true - the team relies too much on them. Stoychev played too conservatively in games when he could have put younger players or more inexperienced - as guests against Russia and all four games with Japan.
3. Back injury - some problem with nerve on his back, he couldn't jump without feeling pain
4. Stokr, Visotto and Nikolov improved a lot with him
5. Bulgaria with Prandi looked better overall, but couldn't win match like with Russia in Varna. Only if we could combine the two coaches in one team :)

Last edited by raylight on 21:22 06/08/2011.

oh please, since when Valentin BRatoev is strong part of your team?


so it shows that without Vlado and Matey your team is not so strong.


but what injury exactly? I'm aksing, because we had in Poland only info about his backache.


We can say he created maybe twp great players - Juantorena and Kaziyski [as he works with him since Slavia sofia]. To early to say it about Sokolov, all the rest - Vissotto, Winiarski, Grbic, Raphael, Stokr, Riad, Nikolov were great before they started train with him.


Year 2010 shows not names gives results, but hard work and real team. We haven't got real team in 2010, you had, I loved your team with Prandi, really. You ca'tn be sure if huge name - Stoychev will give you results. But I understand why you took that risk, I'm curious what Bulgaria will win with Stoychev. But for now I preffer still Bulgaria with Prandi.

Last edited by Zyta on 13:36 06/08/2011.

who and why?

Ban him already ...

Тия само дават минуси на коментарите ни и се чувстват силни така.. хахахахахха

Summary: What was my thesis: Poland and Bulgaria are teams from one level. They were at one level at the final 8, because Bulgaria had worse reception and transition due to missing players, players without shape and new coach. Bulgaria still should have won the match, because we controlled it - from 0:1 to 2:1, but Poland with Anastazi were smarter and more determined and they took the match.

That started the flame war. So horrible crime that deserves to hang me here. I feel so guilty right now FOR HAVING AN OPINION

Last edited by raylight on 17:19 05/08/2011.

"Our mate Proud wrote true, qwertyuiop next wrote true and you spiridoncheto continue your..... Opinion

raylight, spiridoncheto and skyloioannes, yes poland is the worst team ever, we sholud better stop play volleyball, is that ok for you? Yes? Ok, so please shut the fuck up "

Here is my opinion, posted in this tread earlier:

Who ever said that Poland is weak? Brazil and Russia are the best, Bulgaria, Poland, Cuba and USA are the next level. Italy can join them with Savani, Parodi and Zaytsev together.

P.S. If you want to "shut the fuck up", be a man and come to Sofia to make me to. Take your friends too. If you cant support your bad words with your hands, don't insult people.

Last edited by raylight on 17:11 05/08/2011.

Here is another one... :D Tell me when i wrote something against Poland???You don't know what is talking about but it is easy for you to say: "yes poland is the worst team ever, we sholud better stop play volleyball" right?Guys you are so funny...
PP Ok,I stop to argue because with some people you just can't write normally...

Last edited by spiridoncheto on 14:26 05/08/2011.

Our mate Proud wrote true, qwertyuiop next wrote true and you spiridoncheto continue your..... Opinion

raylight, spiridoncheto and skyloioannes, yes poland is the worst team ever, we sholud better stop play volleyball, is that ok for you? Yes? Ok, so please shut the fuck up

qwertyuiop12345 The diffrence is huge when you win 3-0 or 3-1 and when you win with 3-2.I would say that you deserved the win if you beat us 3-0 or 3-1 but this match ends 3-2 and both teams deserved to win...Yes you were better in some momments which was decisive for the final result.I didn't made excuses when I said that Matey wasn't phisicaly ready,Salparov,Nikolov and Bratoev were injured,I just tell the facts!It is your problem that you thing that I made excuses for our lost!Happy?We can also say "if" Matey wasn't having this back problems,Salparov,Nikolov were fit than... like you can say "if" Wlazly,Winiarski... were fit than...but they weren't so you can't make excuses so do we,because that was the reality!
PP Do you know the meaning of the word "haters"?I can't see where I wrote something badly about your team...

Last edited by spiridoncheto on 11:16 05/08/2011.

Мисля,че в случая поляците обръщат хората срещу тях, но...
Доста са горди,че с 2рия си тим победили нашия 1ви. Ще им го *(&@*&!^ ей са на европейското и пак ще плачат с наведени глави и няма да пишат из форумите.
Подпираха ги на св. лига щото е комерсиална и ако отпаднат няма кой да пълни залата (загуби за милиони), но на европейското няма да е така..

Finally, objective voice. I have nothing against Bulgaria NT, just I dont like when after lose someone find irrational excuses, we lose 2 times in 2010, we was worse, no one said that was different, now you lose, we was better, the only different is after our lose we said: yes, we was worse, congratulations. Raylight, SkyloIoannes, spiridoncheto said: we lose but ble ble ble, all was agains us etc.

Last edited by qwertyuiop12345 on 08:06 05/08/2011.

This is getting seriously ugly!!!!!!!!!Raylight,SkyloIoannes,spiridoncheto-you're turning people against us,our country and our team in your consistently failing attempts to make them respect us!As I said before-if our team is stronger than another one,we're gonna beat it,if not,they're gonna beat us-ENOUGH SAID!Yes,we beat Poland in the WC and what happened-Polish users congratulated us and said"Yeah,you guys played a better match."Was anyone whining about it looking for excuses like"Well,we lost the match with Brazil the day before,our team was down,bla-bla"-I don't think so!I see how it looks funny to people...We have great players,respected around the world,that have great club careers and our NT has traditions in this sport,BUT we have NOT won a tournament of importance-there's your precious fact.This could change,or not,it doesn't depend on you,me or anyone else outside the team.Stop with the racial slurs-IT'S DISGUSTING!!!!And for the record -yes,raylight,Poland was a great host for the F8 this year :)I'm sorry if reading my comment cost you anything,you know...with your time being expensive and everything.

Last edited by proud on 23:44 04/08/2011.

Stop it!

Who is speaking the language of hate? Who is talking with primitive language about the other teams? Who can not use arguments and insults other users? Who has no manners? Who doesn't remember his team history? When other Polish users say something racist like "Our public is the best in the world, our tournament was the best in the history of World League" We were polite enough not to point you some facts and arguments. Every person has the right to think nice things about himself, his identity and his nationality no matter if they are true or not - that is his personal universe. The problem is when someone is stupid enough to start thinking that only his Universe has right of existence and start harassing the others. Do you understand what I am talking about? Because I am wasting my time with you, so far, qwerty, and my time is EXPENSIVE!

Last edited by raylight on 23:28 04/08/2011.

I dont want to translate it again, its like fight with shit. I see Bulgaria is full of haters (I m sorry normal intelligent people form Bulgaria, nothing agains them), who didnt understand nothing, they have team without any succes in history but anyway its not reason to be so hater and no objective, thats all, it havent sense to give arguments people who are immune to knowledge, so I dont write with you more.

Last edited by qwertyuiop12345 on 23:13 04/08/2011.

qwertyuiop12345 man are you stupid or what?How many times i have to tell you that we missed two players not one???Read before you write meaningless posts!No i can say Poland secound team was better than our firts(without 2 PLAYERS),because the game was very close and like you win 3-2 we could win 1-3 but you had home advantage and the public helps in some momments.

Last edited by spiridoncheto on 22:37 04/08/2011.

Not one, two times if you remember Hubert Wagner Memorial. Poland was in full squad, while Bulgaria played the first three sets with second. Sokolov against Wlazly, Gotsev against Plinski, Ananiev against Winiarski. We won 3 out of 4 times in 2004 World League, we won in ECH 2007 against you, we won two times in 2010 against you.

And you cant read. If you read my last post, specifically first sentece you shouldnt write this.

PS: Bulgaria win one time vs Poland and talking about ,,lessons,, and big orgasm, we beat Bulgaria many times so dont talking shit.

Last edited by qwertyuiop12345 on 21:11 04/08/2011.

qwerty, you still can't get over the volleyball lessons of 2010, can you?

Last edited by raylight on 20:18 04/08/2011.

These kind of discussions are pointless,guys...You beat someone you're better,that's it!
Physical form,injuries,available players,staff changes,etc.-those are problems that every team has to cope with,that's sport! :)

@raylight "Matey Kaziyski had to COVER THE LIBERO in reception" - ARE YOU KIDDING ME??!!