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I've been wondering for a while now, whether or not was a good idea for the Itas Diatec Trentino to give (even just for a year) Sokolov to BreBanca Lannutti Cuneo. Stokr for sure is - in my opinion - one of the best wing spikers in the world, but, could have Sokolov give more to Trento this year? If you just look at the bulgarian big guy performances, he always shines, and above all as long as the attack is concerned, his percentages are huge. In addition to this, I have no doubt that in a couple of years he will be among the first three opposites in the world (Along with M. Mikhaylov and Wallace - once again, it's my opinion).
So what do you think about it? Was it a clever idea to give such a good player to one of the most dangerous opponents in the league?
I think not.
So what do you think about it? Was it a clever idea to give such a good player to one of the most dangerous opponents in the league?
I think not.
#JanStokr #ItasTrentino #ItalianSerieA1201213 #TsvetanSokolov
this year:
for Trentino: Stokr 523 attacks (Matey 457 and Osmany 394)
for Cuneo: Sokolov 692 (Earvin 450 adn wout 447)
it's like Vissotto, he was a real beast when he came to Trento from Castellana, but in there, where he didn't attack 80% of the setted balls he lost efficacy, i think is the same for Sokolov
1) Is really Sokolov unreliable and how big is the base of matches to decide that. I gave counterexample.
2) If he is really less reliable, does this is more important than the fact that he is more productive - he scores more with every element?
I don't think Sokolov is the end of all. I just SEE, and don't THINK that he plays better volleyball than Stokr in general /except for reception/ he is much higher in all charts /including best spiker with Wijsmans in CL Final Four, best scorer in all Champions League/ and on top places in all elements in Serie A1 stats. I just question if the reliability is estimated from large enough sample and even if it is correct evaluation is it more important. I haven't decided yet. Have you? This is reasoning, not prejudice. I didn't talk about Sokolov until recently, when he gathered facts in his favor. Like medals, points, MVP's
I could just ignore it or say: "Hey raylight did you watch yesterday's semi against Trento, tell me what was the result of Sokolov's productiveness when it didn't meet reliability in the most decisive moments of the 5th set." Still I'll stay with the first option this time, so hush-hush (I didn't quote nor reply this one).
You are far too generous when it comes to admitting someone's strong points.
Ignoring gets boring so let me reply this time: Stokr was more efficient than Sokolov during last Italian Cup final, same with World CCH in Doha (who cares Sokolov didn't take part in those). Once again you tend to manipulate facts to make yourself comfortable with your thesis. If you still don't know what I mean try to divide/multiply both sides (Czech and Bulgarian) of the equation by the same number. Keep the balance yet remember volleyball is often something more than math.
When I pointed Sokolov successes it was not to compare with Stokr's, just to point that he has quality. About CL, Sokolov made the stats, because HE pushed his team to the final four, while Stokr didn't. Stokr, Kaziyski, Juantorena didn't do their job helped by the scheme and they landed quickly. Why didn't Stokr won them the golden set? Is he reliable if we can't rely on him to win a set alone? What does "reliable" means depends on the context, my friend
My mathematical theory is that more is more. You score more points without losing efficiency - you drammatically lower the chances for your team to be in situation with too many decisive points which you could potentially screw. Just score 30-50 pts and don't care about your fears of breakpoints in tiebreaks, where everyone can crash, like Milijkovic, Giba, Dante and everybody else, because tiebreaks are so random
A year go I wouldn't think of questioning Stokr's position as first in Trentino, but then he was obviously better
Hanes - Milijkovic?
I'm talking about reliability and you are pointing some obvious physical features. It's not a secret Sokolov can hit harder, same with Stokr reaching higher. Nevertheless I was talking about overall reliability. Stokr has the main advantage over Sokolov here. Pay attention to their ball control, putting angles in crucial moments, avoiding mistakes. Stokr is not one of those supernatural talents, he came to everything by hard work.
Bingo!
Everyone has, except for Kaziyski with unlimited spiking. Sorry I had to recall this one.
Better arsenal in attack? Not in it's basic meaning for sure. I suppose you are talking about roll shots or tips in which they both suck.
Pay attention to the game systems in Trentino and Cuneo. In Trento it's more balanced, usually split between 3 wing spikers. Thel distribution in Cuneo is much different, Grbic always plays a lot with opposites, but still manages to make them avoid hitting against well organized block almost all of the time.
Of course he has, that's why this comparison between him and Stokr is possible.
Once again you try to make Sokolov a better opposite than Stokr by pointing this single match over and over again. Stokr had many of those so called solo performances in his career, even though he doesn't have many opportunities to do so because of the game system I mentioned.
Great theory, too bad it never meets practice at least in volleyball. It's not football, handball or boxing, doesn't matter how big advantage you make in the beginning you still have to score the last point, can't stay in defence, that's where reliability takes over the control. Of course tie break is sometimes much of a lottery, but keep in mind it's not the only crucial of every match.
My opinion - if he will play (PLAY! ? ) in teams like Cuneo and in NT as first OH, yes, he will be better.
@raylight As I said before, volleyball is something more than math. Of course spiking efficiency is one of the factors that make you give least chances to your opponent, but still he can respond with the same. You simply can't avoid those crucial moments, not in volleyball. So many examples coming out as we speek, just look at the Serie A semis. Look at Fei, he struggled with himself all the match, but what he did in the 5th set- that's the advantage of experience, simply priceless. Stokr also struggled against Cuneo, but his spike became the turning point of this game.
The progress Sokolov's recently made is a milestep, he still needs time though, doesn't matter how many solo performances he made so far.