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Bulgarian fans in World League 2012 Final Six

added 20:27 09/07/2012 in Fans, place 11213/11213
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The public responding to one of several supposedly wrong calls from the judge in match between Bulgaria and Poland of World League 2012.
Date: 07.07.2012
Place: "Arena Armeec" Sofia (BUL)
Match: Poland - Bulgaria 3:0 (semi-final)
Kind of tournament: World League 2012 Final Six
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Wilfredo_is_Marshall
Wilfredo_is_Marshall RS 5 years ago 0
Wow you guys should become authors, you write soooo much!
raylight
raylight BG 5 years ago 0
We always play to win NXT, no matter first or second team. Under Stoychev we played with first team against Germany. Our federation is destroying volleyball, but that is small part of the puzzle, if we could win a medal at the WCH none of this would happen. Let's focus on the Olympics now, I wish all teams to play to win and Poland to get at least a medal // and two have three European teams on podium//
NXT
NXT PL 5 years ago 0
Yea I'll just quit responding here. Just don't think you convinced me ok? And don't say that Brazil cheated you in WCH cause you went on match with your 2nd team aswell. Of course Brazil made it in more riddiculus way then you but purpose was the same. See you mate

Last edited by NXT 10:24 19/07/2012.

who_is_asking
who_is_asking BG 5 years ago +2
You are crazy,raylight.Our federation is the one that destroys our volleyball.Not the Polish one,not the Brazilian one,not the German one,not the Spanish one,not the Egyptian one-ours!Those conspiracy theories of yours could be quite fun to read sometimes,but come on...you've got to draw the line at some point.Right?Have you no self-awareness?
raylight
raylight BG 5 years ago 0
Big countries like Brazil, Poland, Russia have little mercy for Bulgaria. When Brazil cheated, we were out of top 4 in WCH, when Poland cheated we were out of top 4 in ECH. After the first failure the federation fired Prandi who had no fault. After the second failure the federation fired Stoychev who also had no fault. The big scandal began and now we don't have a team. Brazil and Poland are big countries, richer, wiith money for volleyballl, with many clubs and players. Bulgaria has no money and not enough players. Brazil could afford not to cheat wiith milions of titles and bright future, Poland didn't need the medal that much, they were going to World Cup. You are destroying Bulgarian volleyball with Rezende and Anastazi and wiith the federations, we don't have resources like you. Two deserved medals would have brought changes and investments, now their absence brings anihilation. Every time you cheat, you harm volleyball's reputation in global scale and you hit Bulgaria hard. Have you no mercy?
raylight
raylight BG 5 years ago 0
The wild card was known in the spring to be for Poland, it was bought by the federation. About Slovakia, even Gruszka admitted they played for loss / except Jarosz, which is the reason to like him that much/. Poland improved so fast because the team had great push with money and cheating, but they did improve. The medal in World Cup was deserved, the title in the World League is deserved. I am pointing that you can['t judge, since you have no moral ground for that. Especially Bartman who played bad vs Bulgaria and got nervous.
NXT
NXT PL 5 years ago 0
You're right again. I'm not saying they are the best. I'm 100% sure our team is capable of winning OG but so is Italy, Brazil, Russia or USA. But if someone says that Polish NT didn't achieve what they achieved on their own I just can't sit calm and not respond. I simply can't
NXT
NXT PL 5 years ago 0
Yeah and most of us agreed to that champion. We're arguing with raylight now that stated Poland didn't actually achieved anything on it's own because our team always had some help (even from OPPOSITE teams - that one is really the best) which is both riddiculus and sad imo
nyshek
nyshek PL 5 years ago 0
@raylight- Ok, but first thing is, that we had right to lose with Slovakia and avoid Russia in QF. We were playing for good result, so each road, which is more helpful to reach a success, is good. It was coach decision to play with second squad.About Wild card- we got it from FIVB, not bought it. Should I remind you, that you got it 4 years before?
About WL in Poland- remember that then you still had chances for advance to semifinals. Argentina played with reserve players?- we didn't ask them for it, they had right to do it. And about CL- ok Skra wanted to host FF in 2008 and 2010, but this year CEV asked them for it, cause any team wanted to it.
It's not our fault that volleyball in Bulgaria isn't the same as it's in Poland.
NXT
NXT PL 5 years ago 0
We didn't play to lose - we went to court with our 2nd team. If you can't see the difference it's your problem not ours. And yeah... It's not like Poland won something. We were always given anything (yay you lost against Italy because of Poland not because Italy is twice as good team), wild card is quite a normal thing that was given to/bought by soooo many teams that I can't see reason you blame Poland for doing it. Ahhh wait... Of course. If Poland didn't buy it Bulgaria would get it and win world cup. So obvious... And again - we didn't win with Argentina (TWICE man - we got them TWICE) they just gave up because they saw how weak our team is compared to Bulgary and decided they'd give us bronze medal to make us happy. Now that's the logic!
raylight
raylight BG 5 years ago +1
I would say that the empty hall most of the time is far more serious reason not to repeat tournaments in Bulgaria than this ugly scene. Bulgaria lacks dedicated volleyball fans, they are fans of the National volleyball team.
About judging, Polish fans has no right to judge since their team played to lose vs Slovakia, sent us to Russia, bought wild card for the World Cup and got huge help home from Argentina for the World League, the judges even supported us vs Italy so Poland may pass. Not to talk about the CL hosting every other year which gives Skra undeserved medals.
nyshek
nyshek PL 5 years ago 0
Like I said- hope that will change.
Sllaveq
Sllaveq BG 5 years ago +1
Oh, I already gave my opinion about this "fans" absolutely acting like hooligans..
nyshek
nyshek PL 5 years ago 0
Ok, but we are speaking about semifinal match, not situation in BG federation. Throwing different kind of things on the playground directly to players isn't a good thing. I know that fans of BG NT was dissapointed of decisions of refrees, but remember that he made mistakes on both ways.
About situation in your federation- I hope that will end soon, cause I don't want to see scenes like this no more.
Sllaveq
Sllaveq BG 5 years ago +2
nyshek, no public because of the federation man.. people said that there will be boycott of the matches but.. no one heard us.. We were expecting big show and it happen holly sh*t.. with this expensive /for bulgarian standart/ tickets with this team with no chance for win becuase of the scandals the federation made... no public! I hope won't get any host soon too! Stupid federation takes hostages to steal money...
nyshek
nyshek PL 5 years ago -2
Because of public like this, tournaments of this kind shouldn't be played in Bulgaria no more. Sorry guys..;(
RenanZ
RenanZ BR 5 years ago 0
Man, never saw so many minuses in the same conversation.



Go seek something better to do!
BlueDemon
BlueDemon US 5 years ago 0
In my opinion they should of called "replay" on that one.
rkk
rkk BG 5 years ago 0
This point is obvious for Poland. The hand of Valentin, then the antenna. But there were some other points, which were clear out or clear in in favour of Bulgaria. But all of them the referree gave to Poland. That's why we attacked the dutch.
artko
artko PL 5 years ago 0
@Mlody: "Pastuchy"

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